Thinking aloud about the future
I just got finished watching Back to the Future II and quite frankly, I have a few questions.1.If the Doc goes into the future, and finds out that Marty's son is involved in a bank robbery then why does he have to take Marty there? Could he not have just come back and warned Marty that his son would have been involved, and he could have told him to take the necessary precautions? It would have saved the Doc a trip.
2. In the scene where they are in Marty and Jennifer's house in the future, and Marty talks about his "serious accident" that leaves him unable to play guitar anymore, wouldn't the Doc tell him about that since Marty wanted to make it huge as a rock star?
3. If Biff takes the almanac, and goes back in time and gives it to young Biff in 1955, then everything would have changed from that moment on, including 2015. So the setting in 2015 should have changed right? Yet Old Biff returns to 2015 and parks the Delorean, and everything is the same. That doesn't make any sense if Old Biff gave young Biff the almanac and Biff makes his fortune and ruins Hill Valley.
4.If Old Biff goes back in time and warns young Biff that Marty and the Doc would come looking for the almanac some time, wouldn't he just kill Marty and/or the Doc? Instead, the evil, corrupt 1985 Biff says "Funny, I never thought it would be you" then he tries to shoot him.
5.Why in God's name did Biff take the Almanac to the dance? Young Biff having the almanac was like being given an ATM card with an endless supply of money. Yet he wanted to look it over at the dance that night? Biff you idiot...
6.When they return from 2015 to the new 1985, there is a black family living in Marty's house which makes sense because time has been altered. Yet, the Doc's laboratory is still in the same place, wouldn't it be more realistic if the Doc didn't even have a place?
7. In Back to the Future I, the Doc constantly reminds Marty that no one should know too much about their own future. Fair enough, but then he takes Marty to the future right away.
posted by Trace Milyn at 4:51 PM
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The only answer I have for you is question number three.
I happen to have a behind the scenes movie about the making of back to the future hosted by the one and only Kirk Cameron.
Its set in the old west and came out just before the third one was to be released.
As funny as this whole thing was, Kirk showing up in the Delorian in the old west and answering questions from "fans" mostly to the tune of "somebody spilled the beans that in third one Doc falls in love. Is this the true? The Doc in love?"
He does answer one real question about time travel and the space time continuam and it just so happened to be like yours.
He explained it as: There is a deleted scene that shows Biff returning to the future at which time the whole scene begins to fade into something new. The buildings change and old Biff actually fades out of existence ala Marty on stage in the first one. He is apparently shot by his wife in the 90's (WTF does that come from?) The producers apparently felt this was too confusing for most viewers so they axed the scene.
Good choice.
At this point Kirk hops back in the Delorian and some kid from the old west asks him to take him to the future so he can see what happens in the third movie.
Kirk then pistol whips the kid and drives back to the present. Alan Thicke asks him where he's been and Leonardo DeCaprio as the orphan back talks him.
Ah the 80s.
8. Why did the producers feel it necessary to make BTtF3?
For the same reason I suspect you chose to use a really awkward acronym. When they thought it up it looked a lot better in their heads than the result.
Personally I liked the third one fine. The love triangle of Marty the Doc and Claira was awkward as fuck but the scene where Marty fights Mad Dog Tannen in the street is killer.
That hurt.
My bad.
Can I make it up to you with an ice cream cake
Beef,
I got the trilogy on DVD and that part of Biff getting shot I dont recall? And believe me I have watched every special feature on all three of them. In the deleted scene in BTTF 2, Old Biff returns to 2015 to replace the Delorean so Marty and the Doc never knew he was gone, but he accidentally jerks his cane into his stomach because it is stuck. Then as Marty and Doc fly overhead, Old Biff crouches and has what looks like a heart attack and his character dissappears. They did not put this in BTTF 2, but based on Doc's explanation of the space time continum, 2015 should have changed the instant young Biff got the almanac.
However, I do agree that seeing Kirk Cameron roll into the old west in the Delorean is one of the funniest things ever. I love how he does all of the voices. I have no idea why they put that on the DVD set when they re-released all of it, but I am glad they did.
The honest truth is Back To The Future is my favorite movie of all time. But it has so many holes in it, you really have to overlook a lot of things. And I even believe that space travel is possible by using a Delorean, it's the other stuff you have to overlook.
I will show you. It is on the VHS version. I don't know why they wouldn't add it to the DVD.
Ben,
Upon further review you are correct, partially. Kirk Cameron only explains that it's assumed that Lorraine shot the rich biff in 1995. They don't mention though the scenery changing around Doc and Marty in 2015 to reflect that the past has altered the current 2015.
Furthermore, in the BTTF 3 dvd there is a section with FAQ's about all three movies and they ask that question. They say the same thing, but they said they wanted to leave it open for the viewers imagination.
That's pretty lame considering it contradicts everything they talk about with regards to time travel. They also said that even though the past had been altered in 1955, the suburbs where Marty and Doc are in when they go to Marty's future house would not have neccessarily changed.
I think it was a major oversight in the movie, but hey that's Hollywood.
You were right though Beef.
My theory is: in movies where reality is suspended and you are asked to believe something that we know not to be possible - you have to roll with the punches when both ends of the space time continuam string don't connect.
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